1. We were building Trust 2. It was confidential. 3. It was their choice 4. They were not ill enough as we saw them 5. Nobody told us about what they had observed [ they should have; their fault ] Contacting us it's up to them to find a way. Our staff are always changing, giving you a contact point would'n't work 6.They can't be forced to take up activities - [ and just as well; there aren't any ] If we had such a service; if there had been 'beds' 7. they were no longer on our books [ they did not attend ] 8. Nobody asked us to see them any where else carers or patients; In any case , they would not come. If they did they would not be able or willing to tell us about any illness. Oh no, we couldn't see you ... see 1. 2. above 9. There was no point in putting it into the Care Plan because there was no resource. We don't have that kind of aftercare service. We discharge them back to the GP. [ for counselling ? well, carers can get that, if they are too burdened ] 10. What ? section? -- see above: then we would have to do and provide something in aftercare, and be responsible if anything goes wrong - work for us - not ill enough ....remember .... we can't do everything overwhelmed with acute work - forensic ..... ?? !!1 We prefer them as informal patients, because then it's their choice; and less legal documentation. There is no aftercare obligatioon [ if we manage to avoid [ by postp0oning ] 'contniuing health care needs' at the CPA meetings. 11. ooh no, we can't tell them what they need to do to stay well - use our authority .... [ although we do know what they should do ] - it's their choice you see, to live in neglect, to not do anything interesting or useful, or that requires them to be out and abouit with others sharing an interest - it's their choice. It's not possible to secure a longterm activity that can be met twice a week,and that X would accept. Any way that's the L:A Social Services responsibility. they don't met the threshold . You should speak with the GP ... what , confidentiality again ......
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